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Post by iwakami on Jan 9, 2005 14:04:30 GMT -5
Uh sorry keeper I havent gotten to it yet. But I can acctually go and ask a LOT of gay or lesbian or whatever they may be , I can go and ask some questions and get many answers and stuff........
What sort of questions would you want me to ask. Not just keeper either, if there is anyone else that wants me to ask a certain question as well.
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Post by reverie on Jan 12, 2005 1:34:39 GMT -5
ha..ha..ha... you surely see how pippie is, teahouse keeper!  so... you like grumpy man? do you like grumpy old man? ;D have you seen the film? it's a comedy. when i get depressed, i like to think of commiting suicide. it surely is not a real way out. but it surely seen at least as a break for a person in a deep stress. and the thought is this... for a person who doesn't care anymore abt anything, less about religious teaching of life after death, vanished forever is not a problem at all. it's seen as a way out. surely no man in a sane condition will think of it that way. but you can't expect sanity from a very depressed person. i think, pie, love is a kind of feeling that's nice, beautiful. willing to sacrifies yourself for the sake of others. yada... yada... yada... but ppl and feelings can change, ay? my feeling to my bf slowly changed too for some reason. as years go by we find lots of difference which can strengthen but also can weakened us. as i analyse our relationship, i find some disappointments that make the spark cease. guess i shouldn't have analysed it. i know no body's perfect. no one can fill our expectation perfectly. but when that expectation is crucial, it became disappointing when it can't be fulfilled. why am i holding on? well, lots of reason. one of them is coz i can't make my mom disappointed. and another reason is... yeah... i admit... i still love him. i mean... we've been together for 2 years and more. it surely mean something... and surely makes it tougher to put it to an end. and sometimes i think ppl who are sticking together although they don't love each other anymore is bcoz they love the ppl whom they were in love to, not the ppl who is now w/ em. so they are holding on to the past. sad? yeah, i think so. some part of me feel that way too. fortunately for me and my bf now there are still quite some parts of him that i still love. though i can't forget my grudge to him in the past that makes things become like they are now. i wish i could. i wish we could go back to those times when things weren't that complicated and hurting.  if i remember that... i get sad. as for ppl who get divorced? i think it's bcoz they've ceased trying to hold on or to make things better. their selfishness is greater than their love or their previous love. perhaps in the past they didn't love each other that much either. coz if they did it'll be very hard to let go off the person whom they used to deeply love. the memory... everytime you look on his face... though he has changed... it's so hard to let go. of coz this is inapplicable to those whose partners it an extreme ppl, for ex. a husband who likes to beat up his wife, etc. but if the love is so great, i'm sure it really can surpass anything like transgender issue. but such love is hard to find. that's why a transgender person get less chance to have a real long lasting relationship. eh, iwakami, my bro said he's never aroused to a person of the same gender and so did my bf. actually, i think it's women who's likely to be that way. i admit, sometimes i like and couldn't help myself starring at a nude pic of a drop dead gorgeus sexy woman. i get aroused sometimes, but not to have sex w/ her. i admire her, but at the same time i'm jealous at her for having what i don't have. |
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Post by pippichan on Jan 12, 2005 2:06:45 GMT -5
Hey, reverie! Or should I call you 'rie'?! Hahaha!!! If I call you 'rie', it's like I'm talking to a character from my own story! You know what? You use the same avatar as krizia's so that for a while ago I thought you were her. ;D So, you're saying that the reason why people still stick together even though love has ceased to exist between them is because they remember their love in the past. Hmm... I don't think I can live like that - or love like that. Past is past, now is now. And if things can't be fixed again, I'll just let go. Yea, yea, I'm a selfish person. For me, I want it all or nothing at all. Hehehe... ;D Hmmm.... I guess 'great love' only exists in movies and stories. I never see it in real life. Seems to me that love known in society is a conditional love, instead of the unconditional one. What does that sexy woman have that you don't have?  |
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Post by reverie on Jan 16, 2005 1:41:24 GMT -5
yeah, i know. i was confused in choosing avatar. but i've changed it. see? like it?
well, yeah, there's no unconditional love in reality. but it can be gain if the person isn't going to be selfish nor going to analyse it. and sometimes the person will have to swallow his/her pride which is sometimes very hard to do. but talking abt it is surely easier than dealing with it. love... is a mysterious thing.
what does the sexy women have that i don't have?
*smilling and blushig* pippie, is that a compliment for me? ;D
ok, em... a more perfect shape perhaps? the pic of them are usually made so perfect by plastic surgery, computers, etc. no real original body can compete w/ that, ay?
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Post by iwakami on Jan 16, 2005 21:46:28 GMT -5
My friend just said that he is bisexual.
I suport him and everything, but aft4er speaking with him for a few minutes or so, i dont think he is. I asked him if he is attracted to people who are strangers, (as most bisexuals are) and he said no, he has just been attracted to guys that he knows and is friends with. I dont want to tell him that I think he is not bisexual b/c he truely beleives that he is.........its sort of sad though.
I think he might be getting himself into trouble with this in a way as well. A guy that is a bit older moved and is coming back to our school over summer and he is bisexual as well. My friend and he both like each other, and the guy wants to have sex with him......my friends girlfriend is the one that suggested this and she wants them to do it at her house and to watch.
Its all just really messed up. I am not liking my friends girlfriend. OR my friends feelings of these sort of things for that matter. He is too anxsious to have a serious relationship with someone and to have sexual relationships with someone.
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Post by pippichan on Jan 18, 2005 3:26:45 GMT -5
Whoa, Iwakami...!! Your friend's girlfriend... ck..ck..ck Ok, rie, I won't debate with you about love again. After all, you're the one with a lot experiences in it! Hehehe... ;D |
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Post by reverie on Jan 18, 2005 4:55:03 GMT -5
 iwakami... your friend's so mixed up. *shaking head* are there a lot of your friends into free sex like this one? his gf wants to watch him doing it w/ a man? what... btw, in the contrary, i think your friend is a bisexual. you don't have to like every man and woman in this world to be a bisexual. just having the strong desire to have sex w/ both gender is enough to be classified as bisexual, be it w/ someone close or strangers. if i were you, i'll told your friend to stop thinking abt it. AIDS, girl! AIDS! there has been to many ppl suffering from it. i think it's enough. we should think twice before endangering our lives for a short moment pleasure. it'll be saver if it's done w/ a permanent partner. and i agree w/ you. that gf of him is certainly a bad influence. well, pie... not a lot. just one annoying, irritating relationship so far.
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Post by pippichan on Jan 19, 2005 3:38:28 GMT -5
Yup... and the one you can't get out of. *nod* I'm glad to be single!  |
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Post by Teahouse Keeper on Jan 21, 2005 5:07:10 GMT -5
Whoa!! Iwakami!! Your friend's girlfriend is Very interesting. Can I watch too?? Ah....ok. Yeah, I was pretty surprised that she wanted to watch. Mmm.....sounds like what they do in pornography Whoa, if I watched them with her, I'd probably get turned on too and need to do it with someone...maybe join in or do it with her! Mm, seriously, I can understand why you don't like your friend's girlfriend. What she suggested shows that she has a questionable character. She just wants to satisfy her own needs and doesn't care about anything else. I don't know whether your friend did it with that guy already, but I think he shouldn't. First of all, there's no love involved. If your friend is really looking for a good/serious relationship with another guy, then why do this? This older guy is probably just having fun and after that? Yeah, I agree with Reverie that your friend should be careful of this guy and his so-called girlfriend. Mm...have you asked you friend this: When he is having sex with a girl, does he imagine he is having sex with a guy? From his girlfriend's attitude, I think he and her are not really a couple/lovers and your friend is probably gay rather than bisexual. So, you may be right, Iwakami. If that's the case, then I think even if you don't tell him, he'll find out for himself sooner or later. It's just a matter of time. Oh, Iwakami, so you've got access to lots of gay, lesbian people, eh? Mm...for the moment, I haven't got any questions for them. Ah! Yes, maybe one. Ask them whether they are happy with each other. Eh? Reverie gets jealous of more beautiful women? You get aroused staring at a nude pic of a gorgeous woman?? How can you get aroused but not want to have sex with her? So, what are you getting aroused for? Ah...Reverie, your description of you and your boyfriend sounds very miserable. You are not happy. That's no good. Plus, I don't quite understand this thing that's keeping you two together. I have to agree with Pippichan here. What's important is now, not the past. I don't think it's selfish to say that. It's being able to see things for what they are. If this guy did something to hurt you, or you did something to hurt him, then why go on like this? Yeah, you said there're still parts of him you love. But you don't sound happy. You sound like it's an obligation to be with each other. And what's this about your mom? What's your mom got to do with it? It's your life. If you're not happy, do something about it. It's not as if somebody's forcing you. You are not married. And even if you were, so what? You only have 1 life. Be happy. Ah!! Grumpy old men. Yeah, I know of that movie but I haven't seen it. It's because it's called grumpy old men. Why should I go to the cinema to see old men?? No, no, no. I want to see Yuki. Only Yuki. Yeah, Pippichan, you're horrible, wicked and heartless. You hit me with a steel bar and love torturing me all the time. Hahaha.... Oh, alright. What I mean is that you're loving, but you can also be pretty cold and heartless when you decide on something. Pretty scary actually. Well, what you're saying is that you haven't met people who are truly in love. Or rather, you've been seeing people who have fallen out of love. So, not having seen people who are really in love, you feel there's no such thing as true love. There're couples who stay together for decades and are still very much in love. As much in love as they were when they first met. Yeah, I read their stories in newspapers. Plus, my family knows of a woman whose husband died and she was so sad that she wanted to commit suicide to join him in the afterlife. And then, my parents are very much in love after being married for so many years. It's true not many couples can stay together for years and still be in love. But that doesn't mean true love doesn't exist, or fades and dies over time. In fact, I think true love grows over time. It's really quite amazing. What's "love" exactly? Well, it's hard to say, but I think a lot of happy couples who have been together for a long time will say that Love is about understanding each other and giving each other support and comfort during difficult times. It's about going through difficulties together and coming out stronger. |
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Post by iwakami on Jan 21, 2005 19:13:52 GMT -5
Keeper - I am quite sure that that they are happy with each other. A friend of mine describes his boyfriend as his koi. (i think that is lover or something like that correct?) Oh, and I could ask him, though. . . he wold have no clue ( i think anyways) I am quite sure that he is still a virgin and has never had sex with another guy at least.
pippichan - yeah.... . .. but I am happy a bit now. I beleive that she broke up with him last week. And my friend has told her sister who told me that his girlfriend wanted to have sex with him. (I really dislike this girl. . . she seems too open and out, she has a nipple peircing, and she will date people.. . . and ASk for sex, not ask if they are okay with the idea first and then propose it.)
reverie - yeah, I thought the same sort of thing. I cannot understand why someone would REALLY want to watch unless for perverted reasons, and even then I think that is a terrible reason.
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Post by Teahouse Keeper on Feb 19, 2005 6:00:39 GMT -5
Mmmmm.......*wonders whether I'm perverted* In your friend's case, I strongly discourage him from having sex with that older guy. So, I wouldn't want to watch, especially when I know about the questionable circumstances surrounding the case. But if it's 2 consenting guys and nothing else, then yeah, I want to watch But that girl is really too strange. Maybe, not right in the head. Also, I wonder how your friend could have known such a girl. Mmm....I thought lover in Japanese is Koibito? |
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Post by Shuichi (V“°Dˆê) on Feb 22, 2005 18:43:59 GMT -5
Hm interesting topic here lol. I didn't have time to read through everything everybody wrote. But though I'd just put my idea of things here Well I think everybody should be able to what they think is right, and what they like without any problem, people who don't like to see two boys or girls together etc. are the people that have a problem. I mean it's really a private thing between the people involved and not the outsiders. And anyway what has it to do with them??? So I guess you jet the jist;) I think everybody should do want the like;) I don't mind any kind of relationship. If it works out for the people involved that is what counts ;D Oh yeah teahouse keeper is right. the japanese word for lover is koibito (—öl) |
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Post by Shirubi on Feb 23, 2005 20:51:38 GMT -5
I agree with Shuichi. ^_^
U should do what u feel is right! *agreeing*
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Post by Teahouse Keeper on Feb 25, 2005 9:45:59 GMT -5
Yeah. There you go. Everybody's happy. So far, I think we are lucky that everybody here is open and understanding about people who are different. Mmm....here's another for you, Makie. *gives her a strawberry wasabi lollipop* Yeah, Shuichi, I think so too. It's a private and personal thing. As long as 2 people are happy together, that's what counts. Oh? You don't mind any kind of relationship? I thought you're more shonen-ai? |
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Post by Shuichi (V“°Dˆê) on Feb 26, 2005 8:23:34 GMT -5
Oh? You don't mind any kind of relationship? I thought you're more shonen-ai?  hehe what should I answer to that? *blush* *hides in ther corner* |
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Post by Shirubi on Mar 4, 2005 21:42:04 GMT -5
Thanks THK! *licks the strawberry, wasabi lillopop*
Yummmm! Thanks.....^_^
That's to cute! *Kawaii*
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Post by pippichan on Mar 7, 2005 2:48:14 GMT -5
*staring at Makie, puzzled* What's too cute, Makie?? Shuichi hides in the corner? Strawberry and Wasabi.... don't you think it's a little bit funny for lollipop's flavour?! Eh, it's yummy?! *staring at Makie in disbelief* |
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Post by ChaTeAubRianD on Mar 12, 2005 1:19:25 GMT -5
wasabi is yummy?!
yuck!
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Post by pippichan on Mar 12, 2005 1:22:10 GMT -5
For the first time in my life I agree with Chateau. |
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